plan b, rush etiquette, + what is “frat flu?”

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
Hey Nadia.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Hello.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
How are you?

Nadia Herrera-Set  
I'm good, how are you?

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
I'm good, but you sound a little bit sick.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Just the common college sickness, I think. It's going around.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
What's the common college sickness?

Nadia Herrera-Set  
a mixture of like every sickness you've ever had, but then it goes away in like two days, so.

Alyssa Herrera-Set 
I'm sorry.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
Do you know where you got it?

Nadia Herrera-Set 
No, but we did go to Virginia last weekend, so could be that too. Yeah, stress, everything combined.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
traveling.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
All right, so what do you guys do when you're sick?

Nadia Herrera-Set  
um way in bed and wish we were home

Alyssa Herrera-Set 
Does it feel better? Does it feel like you wish you were home with your parents to help you? Or like, why do you wish you were home?

Nadia Herrera-Set 
Yeah, I don't know, it just feels, it's easier when you're home. It feels like you guys know what to do and so it's harder to reach like health services when you're in college. I mean, not hard, just like it takes a little bit more effort. And like if you had to go to a doctor's office,

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
How so?

Nadia Herrera-Set  
it's not as easily accessible if you have like a car to just drive or someone to drive you. And also I've never gone to the doctor's office here so that would also be something that's a little bit more like time consuming and then contact whether or not you want to contact the school or if you just want to go.

straight to the doctor's office. I don't even know how it works. Like I wouldn't even, I'd have to call you actually if I really needed it.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
You know, you still have access to your regular health care. Like, you can contact your physician online for advice. Mm.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm. Yeah, over the phone too. Yeah. I was thinking about that, but not necessarily even when I am home like the advice nurse hotline or whatever is really annoying.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
To be honest, actually, technically, because you're out of the state and your practitioner is licensed to practice in the state of California and you're in the state of Massachusetts, I think technically they can't give you health care advice. They can't basically see you. But.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
That's so interesting. Wow.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
I guess they may or may not know that you are in Massachusetts.

Nadia Herrera-Set 
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I don't necessarily have to tell them.

Alyssa Herrera-Set 
Real quick pause. There's a lot of noise in the background. I'm really sorry. Can you hear that?

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Barely, I think it's okay.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
Okay, we're getting solar panels. So I told them to be quiet because we're recording this. I think they think that they're being quiet, but they are not. Okay, so...

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Ah.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Um.

Alyssa Herrera-Set 
Is there ever an issue where you feel like you shouldn't reach out to your health care provider because you're afraid that your parents are going to know?

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Well, like we talked about last time, I've never been in this situation, but like if someone wanted birth control or they needed like other health services like that, like getting STD tested or if you needed like consulting on if you were pregnant or thought you were pregnant, that sort of thing, I feel like it's hard to decide like where you wanna go because...

you might not be comfortable telling your parents about it, but, and I've never been in that situation, so.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
So I think that I did a little bit of research since we last talked. And I think that the concern is that, like, obviously, you're an adult, your physician can be told that your medical consultation with them should be confidential, that you don't want to tell your parents. I mean, they actually can't tell your parents at this point because you're an adult. However, the issue comes with when a bill gets sent home, like an explanation of benefits.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
piece of paper that says to your parents like, hey, Nadia saw a doctor gynecologist on October 1st. And then, hey, Nadia saw a doctor gynecologist on October 5th and October 10th and October 15th. Wait a second, what is happening? This person's a gynecologist. Nadia has been seeing them four or five times in a month. Hey Nadia, what's going on? I got a lot of insurance paperwork coming to the house that says that you're...

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Yeah.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Right.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Right.

Nadia Herrera-Set 
Mm-hmm.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
accessing gynecological care five times. And so that's one concern. It won't say on there, like, Nadia came in to talk about birth control pills or pregnancy or whatever, but it'll say that you saw Dr. Gynecologist. It might not say gynecologist, but the parent can look it up, right?

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Right.

Nadia Herrera-Set 
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Herrera-Set 
Right.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Right.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
So I looked up what you can do about that if you wanted to keep that confidential. And you can call your insurance, give them, tell them that you have that insurance, that you wanna keep your explanation of benefits sent to you in wherever you're at school instead of sent home. You can request that.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm Yeah, I just honestly feel like nobody if a girl is like in that situation, they're not gonna think that far ahead It's just gonna find Another way to go about it, which can be bad and good Actually, I don't really think of it. I don't really think that's good, but

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
written.

Right, you can go.

Alyssa Herrera-Set 
I mean, it's not bad to access a student health care clinic. That wouldn't go back to your parents as an explanation of benefits report, I don't think. Anyway, well, there's the answer. That if you want to make sure that nothing gets sent, you can tell your physician that you want it to be confidential, even if you're not 18 yet. Like, you're 17 and you're in college. And you can.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Right.

Nadia Herrera-Set 
Mm-hmm, right.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
I don't know.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Right.

Alyssa Herrera-Set 
talk to your insurance and make sure that all of the paperwork related to the visits that you have get sent to you instead of to the policy holder, which is typically your parents, because a lot of people stay on their parents' health insurance until they're 26 years old, which is a good thing, right? Because health insurance can be pretty expensive. If you were told that you had to pay, let's say, $150 a month for health care insurance.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Right.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
right.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Hmm.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
Would you think that's a lot of money or not? Yeah.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
For me, yeah. I don't have a job. I don't, like, there's, I'm not really getting money apart from, like, money that you, like, you guys give me. And even then, like, I don't know, being a student is expensive, like, for, in all parts. So, like, having to worry about things like insurance is definitely, like, any amount feels expensive to me. But, like...

Nadia Herrera-Set  
It's definitely beneficial. So I don't know. It feel a little bit like, yeah.

Alyssa Herrera-Set 
I mean, because you could, you could also get your own insurance. And actually, to be honest, $150 a month is really cheap. Like there are people that pay, you know, hundreds of dollars.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
No, right, but like I feel like if even someone told me that I needed to pay $10 a month for something like that's still like with my no income like That's still um a lot. Yeah

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
Thank you.

Okay, so on that note, what are some places that you know of that you couldn't get healthcare related to like, women's health without your parents knowing? Like you already, we already talked about potentially calling your insurance and making sure that parents don't forget the explanation of benefits that you get it, is your care after all. We talked about, I think we talked about Planned Parenthood.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
Did we talk about that? We've talked about the student health care clinic. I think Planned Parenthood is an option. As far as I remember, when you go to Planned Parenthood, you can stay pretty anonymous when you go there. You can put whatever name you want on the paperwork when you walk in. Or you can establish your real name and a regular doctor there. But what about Plan B?

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Right.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Right.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm.

Alyssa Herrera-Set 
or morning after pill. Do you know where to get that?

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Um, well, I know I could probably get it at CVS, which there are a few close to school. Um, but we talked about last time that there's like that vending machine with Plan B in it. I know that there's, I don't know, maybe we didn't talk about it on the podcast, but there's a vending machine on campus that is, um, that-

has Plan B in it. Also, like, I'm assuming probably condoms and other stuff. I haven't really taken a good look at it, but I do know that there's Plan B in there, which I feel like is a really good idea. I'm not, I'm sure that there's other places on campus that it is, that has that too, but the one I'm thinking of is like, it's in a pretty public space.

So while it is, I feel like it's a really good idea. It's definitely like nobody really wants, is gonna wanna use it because everyone can see you when you go over there, you know? It's not private at all.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
It's almost like they should put other stuff in there just so that you can be anonymous when you go to it. It's like we have condoms, we have plan B, we also have Snickers and soda. So like it becomes really anonymous.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
So.

Nadia Herrera-Set
Right.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Right. I think like there might be there might be another vetting machine right next to it. It's just like they could totally put it somewhere else. I'm not really sure but they had to put it like right there. It's just like it's in our gym and the gym the way the gym works is like there's a hole in the middle and everything is like around it so if you just look down and there's like a really public restaurant nearby.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
Are you serious? That vending machine is in a hole in the middle where everybody on every floor comes down and see you while you're getting your plan B.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Well, well everyone, yeah, well it's like, it's a little bit hard to explain, but it's like against a wall, so it's kind of hidden but not really. There's just a lot of other places it could be and it's really interesting that they chose there. I mean they want people to know that it's there, but...

I don't know. Could have been placed better.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
I mean, I guess ideally people aren't ashamed of accessing these things, but I guess there is some reason to be worried that someone might think that you're not, I don't know, that you're irresponsible and that's why you're getting the morning after pill.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Right.

Nadia Herrera-Set 
Right and yeah it's very I don't know shame is a big thing just like you don't I don't know people would want to feel like now everyone can like judge they don't know the whole situation but people like to make their assumptions so it's hard to go up in public and buy something like this although it is free so which is like nice because I think it's like $50 right?

if I went to CVS and also yeah and CVS also locks a lot of these things and so even then you'd have to like press the button and be like guy can you open this for me and then you had to tell them which one you want which they've been doing a lot of recently which I think is really interesting and I feel like I mean they have a reason for it but also

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
I have no idea. $50 is a lot.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
What do you think the reason is for it?

Nadia Herrera-Set  
I think they do it for things that are either usually stolen, most commonly stolen, or for things that can be used to make other things, you know? I don't really know the whole story, but mostly for things that would be easily stolen. Like...

Yeah, I don't know. It's just really interesting.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
So since you have the common college cold, is that what it would it you had a need for it before? Oh.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
It's frat flu. But I haven't like gone out to a frat in a while, so I think I'm actually just sick.

Alyssa Herrera-Set 
Thank you.

Alyssa Herrera-Set 
Speaking of which, what are you doing this weekend?

Nadia Herrera-Set 
Um, to be decided. I, a lot of my friends are doing sorority rush right now so you're not really allowed to go out. So me and my friends that aren't rushing, how to decide? It's not that you're, it's dry rush, I'm not really sure how it works, but like you're not really allowed to be, you don't want a like

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
You're not allowed to go out while you're going through rush.

Nadia Herrera-Set 
sister that's in the sorority to like see you out. I don't really know how, I don't know how it works technically, but um I actually don't know if they enforce like no going out, but it's like they encourage you not to and then um so technically you could go to another school and go out, but I don't, I don't know. I feel like if you're really into it might as well just.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
Maybe it's in an effort to stay home. Maybe it's in an effort to make sure that people aren't doing rush outside of actual rush, right? So there's moments where you get to recruit people while they're going through formal rush. And then if you find out that some house is throwing a party and are basically trying to entice people to go to their house.

Nadia Herrera-Set 
Mm, yeah. Right.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Right. It's like... what do they call it? I really... see I'm just starting all these terms like from hearing my friends but like that's like dirty rush. I don't really know how that works but like they wouldn't want you to... you're not allowed to speak to the sisters outside of rush and then it could probably lead to whole other things but yeah.

So, not sure yet, but we don't have school on Monday, so...

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
Oh, right, because it's Indigenous Peoples Day.

Nadia Herrera-Set 
We'll see.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
Is that what your school is calling it?

Nadia Herrera-Set  
I think so. I hope so.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
But yeah, I don't have school. Which will be nice, I think.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
So what your mother is hearing is that you have something right now called frat flu, which prevented you from going to school today, but you are still thinking about a nice fun weekend partying with people who aren't going through rush and potentially a long weekend of partying because you don't have school on Monday. Did I hear that right?

Nadia Herrera-Set  
It's not a frat flu.

Nadia Herrera-Set 
I'm sorry.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Yeah.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Well, I don't have frat flu. I have regular flu, I think, and it's still to be decided. I don't really know yet.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
Okay, well, I hope you have a good weekend. I actually really hope that you rest and sleep, maybe watch a cute little movie with your friends. Actually, I saw a good movie that you should see on the way home from Virginia. It's called, What's Love Got to Do With It? Have you heard of it? It's about like.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Hehehehe

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Watch movie.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
No. Still on Netflix?

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
It's on Netflix. It's about like this Pakistani American guy who has an arranged marriage, which she calls like an assisted marriage. And, you know, there's somebody that's like doing a documentary on the whole process. And of course, they fall in love, you know, I mean, I know I gave the ending there, but then, you know, you know, that's going to happen, you know, like you knew that from the start, but it's really cute. I like that. What'd you say? It's totally a mean movie. We got cultural things. We got love. We got...

Nadia Herrera-Set  
that movie.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
That's such a you movie. Yeah. It's that. Yeah.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
you know, a predictable flow, nice and easy. Yeah, or maybe you go do homework first.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
Mm-hmm. Maybe I'll go watch it right now.

Nadia Herrera-Set  
I don't have homework. That's a lie.

Alyssa Herrera-Set  
Okay, have a good weekend. It's about to get real loud back here.

Nadia Herrera-Set 
Don't expose me! Okay, bye!
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